Faith Biscuits: Don Shrumm interviews Paula Steinbacher

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Don Shrumm, pastor of Genesis Presbyterian Church (Littleton) has a podcast called Faith Biscuits.  Don recently interviewed Paula Steinbacher, pastor of Church of the Eternal Hills in Tabernash. 

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Paula confesses, she is terrified to do interviews. ”It has something to do with my being on television in high school and feeling completely idiotic. In any case, my good buddy Don Shrumm invited me for an interview (or another way of looking at it is that I twisted his arm and forced him to invite me) about ministry in the mountains and I ended up singing songs from Into the Woods.”

Paula reveals, she had a great time and feels Don made her sound better than she thought.

There are two parts to the interview with Paula, be sure and listen to both.

Don also interviewed Dan Doloquist. Dan is currently serving as Interim Pastor at St. Andrew Presbyterian Church in Denver.

Subscribe here and listen to Part 1 here Part 2 here.

Sharing a COVID-19 Story: Carrie Doehring, PhD at Illiff Seminary

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Last week I asked Carrie to be a part of our Wednesday Zoom Conversation for Pastors and Church Leaders to offer Pastor Care for our Pastors during this time.

Carrie is a professor of Pastoral Care and Counseling at Iliff Seminary. As a minister member of Denver Presbytery, Carrie is an instrumental voice on our Committee on Preparation for Ministry Committee. Carrie shared her story for some reflection. Her written words and video are provided.

What’s my Covid-19 challenge?
My challenge is getting my 92-year-old mother, who lives alone in Montreal, to stay home. My sisters and I call ourselves the Mom Squad. We confer daily on how to ensure she has everything she needs so that she doesn’t leave her apartment. My mother has a fierce sense of independence. She doesn’t like being bossed around by us. She also has a strong Catholic sense of duty to authority.

Our Mom Squad includes the Premier of Quebec, the Pope, her pharmacist, doctor, and tax accountant. We invoke them freely to bolster our authority. Our COVID-19 challenge brings out the worst and best in us. The worst moments are being overwhelmed by fear that our mother will have a COVID-19 death. The best moments are loving conversations about mortality, past experiences of struggles, and what makes us resilient. We also laugh a lot with each other.

What helps me cope? What helps me when I feel overwhelmed?
My stress response is like a fingerprint with unique patterns shaped by my life experiences, especially of trauma, and my psychological vulnerabilities. My spiritual fingerprint is the unique patterns shaped by formative experiences, values, and beliefs that coalesce when we use body-aware practices to calm ourselves (Doehring, 2020). I offer my ways of coping in cultural humility, wary of insidious inclusive beliefs that there is ‘one God’ at the heart of all religious traditions (Prothero, 2010).

My ‘spiritual fingerprint’—my particular experiences of beauty and goodness, values and beliefs about suffering and hope—is shaped by childhood experiences of connecting with beauty through sacred choral music. I have been listening to British composer Ralph Vaughan Williams’ cantata Dona Nobis Pacem. He composed this in 1936, in remembrance of the horrific suffering of World War I that he witnessed during military service on ambulance teams. His unit brought the wounded out of the months-long Third Battle of Ypres at Flanders, where one and a quarter million British, French, and German soldiers were killed. The Latin title Dona Nobis Pacem means “Give us Peace.”

In this cantata, Vaughan Williams set to music Walt Whitman’s poem “Reconciliation.” Whitman was a “wound dresser” in the United States Civil War. Listen to Whitman’s word of hope as he recalls the trauma of caring for wounded soldiers :

Word over all, beautiful as the sky,
Beautiful that war and all its deeds of carnage must in time be utterly lost,
And the hands of the sisters, Death and night,
Incessantly softly wash again and ever again,
This soiled world. (Whitman, 1865/2015, p. 131)

When I listen to Dona Nobis Pacem, I try to take into my body the beauty of this poetry and music. I envision being part of a web of life that includes war veterans like Ralph Vaughan Williams and Walt Whitman.
I envision the ways my sisters and I are incessantly knitting a web of life that holds our mother.
I envision how so many of us, in our own ways, are knitting a web of life to hold the most vulnerable.

References
Doehring, C. (2020). Coping with moral struggles arising from coronavirus stress: Spiritual self-care for chaplains and religious leaders.
Fawson, S. (2019). Sustaining lamentation for military moral injury: Witness poetry that bears the traces of extremity. Pastoral Psychology, 68(1), 31-40. doi:10.1007/s11089-018-0855-8
Prothero, S. (2010). God is not one: The eight rival religions that run the world and why their differences matter. New York, NY: HarperOne.
Whitman, W. (1865/2015). Drum-taps: The complete 1865 edition. In L. Kramer (Ed.). New York, NY: New York Review of Books.

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1) Shawn Fawson, a Ph.D. graduate of the Iliff and DU Joint PhD program and chaplain at Children’s Hospital in Seattle has described how to use Whitman’s poetry in sustaining lamentation for military moral injury (2019).

Do you have a COVID-19 story to share? Contact Communications & Administrative Manager, Beth Carlisle.

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Mid-Council Partners: The following letter will be sent to all loan customers

Mid-Council Partners:
The following letter will be sent to all loan customers 

Dear Partners In Christ,

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 As many of you know, the CARES Act recently passed by Congress that provides financial assistance in the face of the COVID-19 pandemic includes an SBA loan provision. This Small Business Administration (“SBA”) provision offers $349 billion in loans with preferred terms to assist for-profit and non-profit organizations during this challenging time.  The specific program is the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP).  Legal counsel for the denomination has reviewed this CARES Act and believes that churches do qualify to apply for these loans. 

In order to apply you must go through a financial institution that is an SBA lender. The Presbyterian Investment & Loan Program is not allowed to be an SBA lender due to government restrictions. You may want to contact your local bank to see if they are an SBA lender or if they know of one in your area. A list of lenders in your area can be found on the SBA website. In case you do not have sufficient information on the PPP loan program and the application process we have provided you with some resources that we believe are helpful.  

The Treasury Department has published a list of resources which they recommend you read to keep up-to-date on the PPP.  You may reach Treasury's resources through the following website: https://home.treasury.gov/cares  This website has an excellent summary of what is being offered and a direct link to the application.  You can apply beginning this Friday, April 3, 2020.  There is a limit on the funds available so timing may be important. Here is a quick summary of the PPP:

  • Loans are administered by SBA Approved Financial Institutions

  • Loans are lesser of $10 million or 2.5% times average monthly payroll costs incurred during the 12-month period prior to the loan date

  • Calculations for seasonal and new business can vary

  • Interest rate on residual loans is 4% or less

  • Term of the loan is up to 10 years

  • Deferral is 6 to 12 months (interest accrues during deferment)

  • Prepayment is eligible

  • 501(c) (3) nonprofit organizations are eligible

  • Usage can be for payroll and related benefits, interest on mortgage payments, other debts, rents and utilities

  • EIDL loans may not be refinanced into a PPP loan

  • No collateral needed from church or its members

  • No guarantees needed

Please also refer to the denomination’s legal counsel summary of the CARES Act.  You will find information on the PPP in the first section of this CARES Act summary.

We recommend that you inform your presbytery of your congregation's intent to apply for PPP. For further information you should refer to the Department of the Treasury website or your SBA lender.

You remain in our prayers.

Sincerely,

James G. Rissler
President & Chief Executive Officer
Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) Investment & Loan Program, Inc.